Bikes are no longer in production, and they've been around for almost fifteen years. People move on, stop riding, decide they want something different.

The VRSC platform is absolutely bombproof. Change the oil, do minor scheduled maintenance and the bike will run for 200,000 miles.

"Fuel Pack" is a fuel management system.

R.

 

Reliability...who wants that right?



Yaaaa...who wants a bike that is so reliable right? Certainly not the Harley-Davidson Motor Company. They want you to pay $30-40K+ for something that has built-in weaknesses from the start and just keep paying...and paying...and paying...forever...
I've got a turbo VRSCF and a turbo 120R FLHX. I've got way less than half as much invested in my turbo VRSCF than my turbo 120R FLHX and it's still the more reliable and faster of the two. The FLHX is still fun. It's got more torque, around the same HP and it's got a fairing and bags for storage as well as being better for two-up riding, so it's got it's good points.
Marketing of the V-Rod was totally mismanaged by H-D. If another manufacturer would have brought out the V-Rod it would be one of their best selling models.

 

Like he said IT will Last FOREVER and VERY EASY to take care of .Fuelpak is for DYNO tune exhaust and AIR / Fuel MIXTURE.

 

Ozzie: pictures please, both rides thanks. Time to show off...

OP: a 2012 DX or a Muscle? You`ve checked out both models?
Cant go wrong with a V-rod, "best" Harley ever..!

 

Pics....

Ozzie: pictures please, both rides thanks. Time to show off...

OP: a 2012 DX or a Muscle? You've checked out both models?
Cant go wrong with a V-rod, "best" Harley ever..!

Here's a few pics. There's more of my Muscle on different posts here on 1130cc.
I've also got a '74 FXE with a Baker 6>4 tranny with overdrive. Probably as good as an old shovelhead can be. Certainly better than it was new in '74 during the AMF period. H-D had basically the same crunchbox transmission for about 45 years. The Baker 6>4 with the Rivera Pro clutch is as they should have been made by H-D. 45 years and they couldn't figure it out.

 

OP- You will not be disappointed in the Vrod, however you will be disappointed in the lack of support from HD for the Vrod. It was their red headed stepchild that they never want to talk about. Like a bad dream to them. Just make sure that you do your homework and can take care of the bike yourself. Use the forum here also since they are a valuable asset to ownership of the bike. People here will be able to answer any questions you may have.

Don't let anyone discourage you! The bike is awesome!

Harley no longer cares about America as much, They are looking more towards the global marketplace. They have made this abundantly clear.

It will not be today, or tomorrow for that matter. But eventually they will be in serious trouble. The older crowd it getting older and the newer crowd does not want what they have to offer. No one I know that is of the younger generation wants to be on one of their bikes.

 

Advice on the actual bike:

1. Learn the differences between the different models before you buy. Changing things like control location is huge $$.. This is the single biggest mistake for new buyers. They get excited and buy, then learn that HD made one they like even better. Then they spend huge $$ making what they bought like the one they want.

2. With a very few exceptions, any mod from stock will have degraded the bike in some way and lowers its value. Unless you know exactly what you are doing, stay away from lowered, air suspended, body mods, controls moved, whatever.

3. With ever tightening enforcement, a stock exhaust along with the bike is almost a must have. Even if it has a pipe installed, don't dig yourself a hole for later.

 

Those are awesome bikes Ozzy!

Makes me wish I had a turbo setup!

 

Turbos



if anyone is thinking about performance upgrade options at all and might be on the fence about what way to go, do the turbo. Reliable good power. As long as your don't get crazy with twisting the throttle most of the time you are riding a stock bike. When you want the power it's there, right now. Sounds super cool too. Nothing sounds the same as a turbo. Far as I'm concerned all motorcycles should be turbo charged.

 

Ozzie
Oh man, thats some serious work & hours there. Perfectionist. All respect!

 

If I spend $ 10,000 will I be faster than a Suzuki 750 ?

Sorry, I think the Turbos a great power adder and if you are careful you wont blow it up. Ask LL Cool Kurt, he lives it. BUT, you have all the hardware hanging off the right side of the bike. The new superchargers are almost invisible, have arm ripping torque right off the bottom ( Wheelie a 67 Inch wheelbase bike ?! YEA ! ) but to do it right with either internal engine mods are recommended. And either reduces the range of your 3.7 or 5 gallon fuel tank, which already ain't anything to write home about. You can easily spend 100-200 per Hp modifying these engines and if you do it right with internal mods for reliability even more. I chose to go the normally aspirated route, keep the output below 135hp basically cams, heads, new Daytona TT computer and leave it at that. Not trying to be the fastest, that ship has sailed. Just want a great running R Model. The new KTM 1290's Adventure bikes have 135 Hp stock out of the box. Don't know what to else to tell ya - at some point we are just chasing our tail to get max Hp, and still behind.

 

Sorry, I think the Turbos a great power adder and if you are careful you wont blow it up. Ask LL Cool Kurt, he lives it. BUT, you have all the hardware hanging off the right side of the bike. The new superchargers are almost invisible, have arm ripping torque right off the bottom ( Wheelie a 67 Inch wheelbase bike ?! YEA ! ) but to do it right with either internal engine mods are recommended. And either reduces the range of your 3.7 or 5 gallon fuel tank, which already ain't anything to write home about. You can easily spend 100-200 per Hp modifying these engines and if you do it right with internal mods for reliability even more. I chose to go the normally aspirated route, keep the output below 135hp basically cams, heads, new Daytona TT computer and leave it at that. Not trying to be the fastest, that ship has sailed. Just want a great running R Model. The new KTM 1290's Adventure bikes have 135 Hp stock out of the box. Don't know what to else to tell ya - at some point we are just chasing our tail to get max Hp, and still behind.

Plenty of threads on here about cams and top end building and how it tore down their mileage also though man. I would be willing to bet that economy wise the turbo bikes fair better then the n/a bike at a steady state cruise. I would also bet they are almost the same mpg as a stock bike if tuned right and just cruised. In boost that is another story.

In the end their all cool. If it has two wheels I like it!

 

Build on Reality not a Dream that can become a Nightmare.

yea, izcain the Turbos are great for mileage IF you are not using them. For me Good luck with that, if my bikes got it, I wanna feel it ! That's gonna burn fuel, and if I feel a little of course I want more so probably now I'm close to endangering my engine. I had a 4 cylinder Turbo car for 100K miles, replaced a few Turbos ( big pain in the arse ) sold it, told my buyer to be careful, he overboosted it and broke the rings. Of course I spent a month rebuilding the engine, new turbo, ran like hell again, down the road out of my life thank God. Anyway everyones a bit different, now I have a 6 liter N/A T/B SS SUV. Gets 13 Mpg pulling 5000 lbs of trailer and M/C's at 75mph or driving around town. No turbos to ever replace. So I'm a N/A guy, its the KISS factor- I gotta keep it simple stupid. Sensible cam, no wild race heads, good pipe and computer dial the fuel and just f'n ride it. I work on broken jets all week long, -I don't need any more machines to fix or to worry about blowing up, and I like the clean look of a N/A Revo. Thats just me -a case can be built for any direction, N/A, Turbo, S/C. Bring money, it always helps - and you'll need it, especially if we blow one up that wasn't built for long term reliability ! :blahblah:

 

yea, izcain the Turbos are great for mileage IF you are not using them. For me Good luck with that, if my bikes got it, I wanna feel it ! That's gonna burn fuel, and if I feel a little of course I want more so probably now I'm close to endangering my engine. I had a 4 cylinder Turbo car for 100K miles, replaced a few Turbos ( big pain in the arse ) sold it, told my buyer to be careful, he overboosted it and broke the rings. Of course I spent a month rebuilding the engine, new turbo, ran like hell again, down the road out of my life thank God. Anyway everyones a bit different, now I have a 6 liter N/A T/B SS SUV. Gets 13 Mpg pulling 5000 lbs of trailer and M/C's at 75mph or driving around town. No turbos to ever replace. So I'm a N/A guy, its the KISS factor- I gotta keep it simple stupid. Sensible cam, no wild race heads, good pipe and computer dial the fuel and just f'n ride it. I work on broken jets all week long, -I don't need any more machines to fix or to worry about blowing up, and I like the clean look of a N/A Revo. Thats just me -a case can be built for any direction, N/A, Turbo, S/C. Bring money, it always helps - and you'll need it, especially if we blow one up that wasn't built for long term reliability ! :blahblah:

I couldn't agree more lol.

I have one of each in the stable, a s/c daily, a turbo truck, dedicated nitrous drag car, and the good ol n/a SUV Denali for the kid toter.

That's why I have been on the fence about doing anything else to the bike. I would like more power but i already have other toys in the stable that require constant attention (drag car) as well as other hot rods. Between that and business I don't know if I want to worry about the trip to and from the house lol. Although I love to tinker with bikes!

 

My Street Rod is the ONLY Harley I ever considered buying.
It will be the only Harley I ever buy.

So yeah....I'm absolutely a fan. :cheers:

 

That's shit news that the VROD will cease production, they are the best Harley built as they have awesome power & reliable too, i suppose HD don't want that but i know that they were the 3rd best selling model in Australia last yr. Get one and keep it as it's as good a Harley you can get.